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Bill and Brandon discuss the allure of worldly success as compared to the call of making disciples as pastors and leaders are bombarded with "Christian pornography". The guys discuss why make disciples instead of the other things so many of our churches get caught up in.


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Since so many have a difficult time finding the "gospel" in the Gospels, Bill and Brandon try to lay out what the Gospel truly is and a little of what it is not. 


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You can't make it until you know what it is so listen in as Bill and Brandon help us define what it is. A Disciple that is. 


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Bill and Brandon challenge leaders to think past the next disciple to the process of change needed to create a true Disciple Making Movement in their own sphere of influence. 


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The character and the fortitude of the leader matters in Disciple Making. Bill and Brandon walk through becoming the leader shaped by the mission.

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